Posted To a YouTube Video

Oddly the resolution of the problem is relatively easy. The philosophical (not religious) idea of grace needs to be implemented via reflective economic and monetary policies for both the individual and enterprise, and then the helping professions, the clergy and the world’s governments need to make an integrated effort to raise the individual’s consciousness of that concept and of the many positive and constructive purposes in addition to employment that one can pursue and enjoy. Grace as in monetary gifting and graciousness as in love in action have always been the secrets to a happy and productive life. All we really need to do is build institutions to support them so that they become more temporally apparent and more self actualized.

SOG:  socialism

Me:  The best and correct intention of socialism, that is monetary sharing for all…integrated with the best aspect of capitalism, abundance. And the understandings that there is nothing inherently wrong with profit, gain and that modern technologically advanced capital intensive economic systems are inherently cost inflationary and hence unstable without direct monetary gifting to the individual and reciprocal gifting of price and money at retail sale where costs are terminally summed and the economic process also ends.

Posted To The Social Credit Group Regarding Understanding Grace and Its Aplications 02/13/2017

GM:  Ivan illich made a similar point in Rivers North of the Future, noting that St. John Chrysostom had preached against the establishment of institutions of charity by bishops. Prior to the institutionalization of charity, every Christian family put some bread aside in case the Lord should come to the door hungry when people came in need of food or shelter, the Christian Fed and sheltered them, did not simply refer them to a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter supported by taxes or contributions. Nor did they say, “we should change the social order to give these people a dividend!”

This is not to argue that Social Credit would not be an improvement on the current situation; only to point out that Grace must be personal, not institutional. Ivan illich was most eloquent on this in the above referenced book of conversations with Canada’sDavid Cayley, Rivers North in the Future.
There seems to be some diversity of opinion on that point within this group, and I recall numerous postings equating Social Credit with “Grace”. As far as Justice is concerned, perhaps a more nuanced and therefore more plausible assertion, do you accept the old definition of justice as “giving each one what is due?” Your assertion that this must mean a dividend seems to have no historical precedent, alleging that such a dividend is “just” comes out of nowhere. At best, Social Credit may be one way to attempt to make a more just socio-economic order. But to declare it the way, exclusively, is too much.
Furthermore, how can Social Credit ensure “justice” if it is National? Suppose that every Canadian and every US American gets an extra $10,000-$15,000 a year in a dividend to spend on more consumer goods. These are, for the most part, people comfortably well off and, on a global scale, extremely rich merely in so far as they have food, clothing, shelter, and access to education free of charge (at least k-12). How is it “just” to give these people a dividend to amplify their plenty, while many Mexicans and Indians and Filipinos live on vast garbage dumps trying to survive by what they can scrounge there? To be “just”, Social Credit would have to be global, it seems. No one seems to propose that. From what I have read of Major Douglas, even he seemed to think in terms of the nation state. So, the rich get richer. Three cheers for that?

Me:  “This is not to argue that Social Credit would not be an improvement on the current situation; only to point out that Grace must be personal, not institutional.”

That would express the MERELY transcendental aspect of Grace as opposed to a more integrated understanding of it as both God’s Grace and grace as in love in action.
“Ivan illich was most eloquent on this in the above referenced book…”
I think that Illich’s critique was probably of the MERE institutionalization of charity/grace and not advocating either the non-cultivation of it as a personal experience or its reflective application in man’s temporal systems….because to do so would not be mentally consistent.
 “There seems to be some diversity of opinion on that point within this group, and I recall numerous postings equating Social Credit with “Grace”.
I think there is unity within diversity regarding Grace here, and I think all of us would agree that the temporal expression of Grace as in love in action is what Social Credit is all about and is logically and spiritually consistent.
“As far as Justice is concerned, perhaps a more nuanced and therefore more plausible assertion, do you accept the old definition of justice as “giving each one what is due?”
That would be the MERE legalistic, i.e. pharisaic interpretation of economic and monetary justice, yes. One of the definitions of pharisaic according to Dictionary.com being:  (lower case) practicing or advocating strict observance of external forms and ceremonies of religion OR conduct without regard to the spirit;
“At best, Social Credit may be one way to attempt to make a more just socio-economic order. But to declare it the way, exclusively, is too much.”
I, and I don’t think anyone else here has said it is the only way. I would say it is the best way and probably the only way that monetary and economic justice for both the individual and for enterprise, i.e. for the entirety of the economic system, can actually be accomplished…as opposed to being palliated out of ignorance, non-confront or perhaps out of alloyed integrity/other intention.  Also, as it goes to the heart of the ideas/paradigms that the business model of finance currently uses to enforce its economic dominance, it is the terminal solution to that problem as well.
 “Furthermore, how can Social Credit ensure “justice” if it is National?”
Because it is consistent with the Catholic concept of subsidiarity which would oppose an internationalization of monopolistic finance, and institutionalizing a national economic philosophy of grace and its BEST PROBLEM SOLVING reflective policies, is the correct process and an exact expression of that concept.
GM:  I am not going to argue this.  Maurin and Illich have done so eloquently.  Consult them .
Me:  Fine. What about the rest of what I posted?  Or have you conveniently gone into intellectual apathy and so avoided looking at such?
GM:  I will not respond to your offensive ad hominems.  You can keep that for yourself
Me:  Please address the content.
GM:   no time for more.
Me:  Fine. It’s all in the record.

Posted To Ellen Brown’s Blog 02/13/2017

SD:  I don’t take anything Trump says at face value, Emily, anymore than I did with Obama. There is no way in hell we are going to see Glass-Steagall resurrected, nor do I expect we will see NAFTA renegotiated in any meaningful way. Trump promised to reform medicare prescription rates by renegotiating prescription rates with Big Pharma, and has already backed away on that and agreed with his corporate handlers that there will be no changes to their rip off scams in that arena. Same thing has been happening with his promises to work towards cooperation with Russia, in fact as I predicted his neocon appointees have instead immediately moved to further inflame tensions with Russia, China, and Iran.

Me:  Exactly Stuart. And that is why maintaining the focus on and integrating any efforts to raise consciousness about the lack of structural financial competition and the monopolistic paradigms of finance is so important…because these two problems are the glue that keeps all of the systemic socio-economic, political and trans-national stupidities, including corporate dominance, in effect.

If there’s any strategy by Russia in this it is perhaps the sowing and fomenting of obsessive contentiousness in the US, the better to cripple the home and still military leader of Finance Capitalism which Putin as a Russian and former KGB operative undoubtedly has a wary historical, economic and geo-strategic regard for. Of course I don’t see Putin or any other national leader having much awareness of the solution to Finance either. They’re all caught up in international corporatist power plays and nationalist politics. Obsession with power and conflict is the modus operandi and apotheosis of Finance. The only place it can go is to the dust bin of history via monetary grace or drag us all into perdition. Despite being a panentheist and Quantum Scientific Animist I find the spiritual reflectivities ironic.

Never let our vision fall to a lesser target than Finance. It is the glue holding all other temporal idiocies in suspension.

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I think the best stance on Trump is agnosticism. Unless or until he clearly breaks right and or corporatist, or indicates he’s aware of monetary movements like Public Banking/Social Credit and espouses policies reflecting that….how can anyone be sure where “his head is at”?

However, as I posted before with a guy like Steve Bannon as his chief strategist flux/confusion/change is his MO. I worry that Bannon who apparently is an advocate of “The Fourth Turning” which is a sketchy “pop” and amateurish view of Man and history authored by William Strauss and Neil Howe, has his ear. Strauss and Howe’s intellectual allegiances are linked to persons and corporations who believed in invalidated neo-liberal DSGE economic theory and the consequent moves toward mergers and acquisitions/hedge fund/derivatives nonsense that resulted in the “great financial crisis” in 2008, so I’m skeptical of the advice he’s getting.

If he was getting counsel aligned with the world’s major Wisdom traditions which is the best integration of the ideal and the practical and has a 10,000 year evolving history of observing Man and his interactions with the world…I’d be a lot more confident.

Reality of Grace

As an aspect of Grace is the process of Start, Change and Stop, that is flow, and the physical/temporal universe and everything in it must follow that process, the problem is not that Grace is a delusion or scarce or non-existent, but rather that one cannot avoid or escape it!

Hence, the wise and intelligent thing to do is embrace, enjoy and help to more consciously express it within oneself, between one another and in our various temporal systems…most urgently, universally and beneficially to the economic and monetary systems.

Steve Hummel 02/13/2017

The Cosmic Code Of An Integrated Duality Within An Integrative Trinity- Unity-Oneness-Process: The Formula For Everything In The Cosmos

That includes the human mind, logic as in the Hegelian Dialectic, science as in the scientific method, human consciousness, Wisdom and the process of Wisdom itself, Spirituality, the physical universe as we know it as well as the quantum universe from which it emanates, numerous patterns throughout nature as well as cosmic patterns such as:

the Fibonacci sequence,

[ (2, 3)     5 ]

electricity/electro-magnetism,

[ (+ charge x – charge)     Electricity/electro-magnetism ]

basic atomic structure,

[ (proton, neutron)    electron ]

the composition of Time,

[ (Time as a moment x Time as a flow of moments)    Consciousness ]

the human natural experience of Grace,

[ (Space x Time)    Self Awareness ]

History: An Unfolding of An Aspect or Aspects of The Concept of Grace

The major turning points, advances and paradigm changes of history all have as their result an aspect or aspects of the concept of Grace.

Animism– Pre-scientific mutual perception of bliss/consciousness

Hunting and Gathering– Abundance of mother nature

Hindism- Pantheism, Panentheism, a more mentally organized Animism

Judaism– Outward looking/Temporal/Unitary/Oneness aspect of Grace/Trinity

Buddhism– Inward looking/Self Experiential/Unitary/Oneness aspect of Grace/Trinity

Christianity–  Trinitarian aspect of Grace with emphasis on Outward Looking/Temporal Historical Bindback

Agriculture– Increased abundance and control and security of environment

Gutenberg Press– Increased knowledge, communication, learning

Renaissance– Increased integration of thought and knowledge in all areas and resultant blossoming of  arts, sciences and technology

Reformation– Direct access and general distribution of Grace, ending of monopolistic systemic dominance

Industrialization– Increased production of abundance

Paradigm Changes of Wisdomics/Social Credit/Gracientialism/The Cosmic Code– Full conceptual integration and application of both Science and Wisdom and Wisdom’s pinnacle concept and experience, i.e. Trinitarian/Unitary-Oneness-Process nature of Grace, to break up the dominating business model and equally dominating monopolistic monetary paradigms of private finance. Also full integration of Science and Spirituality via full consciousness of the nature of Grace

 

The Riddle Of Conscious Life and Living

Conscious  Life and Living is one thing and its opposite thoroughly integrated to the point of being an entirely third “thing” that is a greater and more unified whole.

Steve Hummel 02/11/2017

[ Non-temporal, Non-Local Utterly Integrated Quantum Reality  <–>  (Apparent Dual Nature Of Physical/Temporal Universe) ] = Primary Reality of Quantum Universe

Hypnotized By The Paradigm Of Debt ONLY

The whole problem economically is that everyone, including the leading economic theorists, is so hypnotized by THE IDEA of Debt ONLY. We require a new monetary paradigm of Gifting to be thoroughly integrated into the debt (as in + and -) based pricing and money system. Gifting will enable us to resolve so many of our modern technologically advanced economic problems that it is amazing that theorists do not see it. Again they and nearly everyone is hypnotized by the paradigm of Debt ONLY.

Here is a list of problems that Gifting resolves and from both the perspective of the left and the right’s agendas:

Economic Democracy- Left

Governmental/Taxation Bureaucracy- Right

Macro and Micro Stability- Left and Right

Financial Domination- Left

Renewal of Profit Making Systems- Right

Beyond economic and political solutions Gifting will resolve the restraining of Mankind’s mind by the overwhelming amount of time and energy currently required for the overwhelming majority to attain and maintain material and financial security.  Leisure, which is not idleness, but rather self determined directed activity, will free Mankind from the failed and now enforced idea of homo economicus and enable us to fulfill our actual species designation of homo sapiens, i.e. wise and discerning man.

The happy and full life has many purposes in addition to employment. Gifting vastly increases the number and range of purposes available to the individual and will usher in a new Renaissance if guided by the the natural philosophical concept upon which every one of Mankind’s wisdom traditions and monetary gifting is based, namely  Grace/graciousness.