Re-Post Of A Long Conversation On Real World Economic Review 04/24/2018

Completely agree we need a new economics. Only a paradigm change qualifies as a new economics. Everything less than that is merely “epicycle” reform that will be gamed and morphed back into the same old economics. Erudition and abstraction are all well and good, but the deep insight and transforming effects of a paradigm change ultimately render most of such to distracted and non fully looking vanity. So let us have a new paradigm so we can actually accomplish a new economics.

Studying the history of paradigm changes is an essential and enlightening guide to deciphering both the old/current one and the new one. In the Reformation the primary aspect of the paradigm change was directness of the relationship to the product of the dominating force, i.e. the God’s grace via its sacraments. This defined the current paradigm of sacraments only via the church and the new one as the individual’s direct relationship with God. Today in economics it is the form of Debt Only for the distribution of money/credit that is the current paradigm and monetary gifting directly and reciprocally applied and distributed at the point of retail sale throughout the entire economic process that is the new one.

If we want and need paradigm change let us study them and apply their signatures to economics.

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Steve Keen says DSGE’s problem is it doesn’t have money, debt or banks in its model, and he’s absolutely right. His only problem is he talks paradigm change and reformation, but he doesn’t have a clue about their nature, their signatures, what the current one or the new one is and how to implement it. He’s a good mathematician and probably a great pedant, but he doesn’t have the mindset skills for paradigm perception….and he’s probably the best economist on the planet…and that tells you something.

Economics needs an informed visionary who can also look directly at commerce, discern its significances and craft policies that deal terminatedly with money, debt and banks, not the endless wandering opaqueness of erudition and abstraction that resides entirely within and cannot step outside of the current paradigm.

FS:  Surely, the major error in conventional economic analysis is obvious. Equilibrium analysis is and must be that gross misunderstanding. The empirical evidence since the start of the industrial revolution is of cycles. Therefore, there is no known period of equilibrium.

Me:  General Equilibrium is the macro model problem, but what is it that plagues both enterprise and the individual and prevents the entire system from being free flowing? Money, debts and banks are the clue…and the deepest answer is INDIVIDUAL monetary austerity. Okay, so banks create virtually all of our money, its form and nature is Debt Only and banks dominate and manipulate all other business models and 95-98% of the general populace.

The answer to the current paradigm of Debt Only is a direct monetary gift to the individual (a universal dividend) and a direct and reciprocal monetary gift at the strategic point of retail sale throughout the entire economic process with a discount/rebate policy that resolves the chronic problem of modern economies, namely price inflation. Direct and Reciprocal Monetary Gifting resolves that problem, the monopoly paradigm of private banks and a whole host of other problems and unnecessary stupidities. If any one can show me that they can do these things and more I’ll applaud them and get on their bandwagon. Otherwise lets get on with the mass movement to herd the entirety of the political apparatus toward the implementation of the above.

FS:  While I do not disagree with the general thrust of your comments, economists must not bite off more than they can chew.

They may wish to emulate Hari Seldon, but the likelihood of their success is very small.

To use scientific development as a more relevant example, it was achieved by many tiny steps each creating further insights. Despite a few false steps, progress has been continuous. The application of the scientific method has been and is of critical importance to its achievements.

As I see it, it will only be through making small rigorously valid steps, will economic understanding on a larger scale be achieved.

L:  Mainstream economists see no difference between rentier income and income directly tied to production of goods and services. Michael Hudson’s views deserve an honest evaluation and discussion. Steve Keen is not (IMO) the best communicator of MMT. Stephanie Kelton and Michael Hudson are the most effective communicators in my view.

Me:  Michael Hudson’s fire in the belly regarding the parasitical nature of finance is impressive. Steve Keen recognizes that MMT has the mechanics of money creation correct but that it only speaks about government debt which is “a tempest in a teapot” compared to the deflationary nature of total individual and corporate debt. However, neither is apparently aware of the breakthrough insight about how to implement what they both want to see, namely the end of economic and monetary austerity for both the individual and for enterprise by tying monetary gifting directly to the point of retail sale throughout the entire economic process.

We can pray that incremental reforms and tweaking of theories will undo the 5000 year old paradigm of Debt as the only form for the distribution of money, and hold up the 500 year old paradigm of Science as the only way of discovering an answer, but these orthodoxies, the increasing pace of change and the rising stress of long delayed resolution will spell disaster for everyone….unless we discover and utilize the supreme integrative human mental discipline of Wisdom which includes science plus the pungent kick in the @ss discernment and decisiveness necessary to resolve and extricate us from the building chaos.

C62:  But the demagogues are already here. Where and when will a reform of existing structures and a latterday Bretton Woods economic consensus come from? Meantime individuals are more nearly “atomised /brownian” largely due to their fixation on mobile devices/”new media”. As in the poem the centre cannot hold & the worst are full of passionate intensity. Isn’t there some sense that the laudable objectives expressed here might resemble rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic?

Me:  You have to bring an every way integrative appeal to traditionally opposed constituencies like the individual and the small to medium sized business community, and use the very means of distraction to unite them. Discernment and integration of only the truths in opposing perspectives and inverting/transforming an apparently problematic means of communication are two of the processes of Wisdom which not only includes science, but is actually its most radical form and manifestation.

KZ:  Craig. “The question is how are we going to resolve the issues that everyone agrees upon, namely the continual build up of debt, systemic austerity and scarcity of individual income?”

Change the laws that allow such actions to be carried out. Then, enforce these laws strictly.

Me:  “Change the laws that allow such actions to be carried out. Then, enforce these laws strictly.”

Yes, so how do you change the current law/current situation?

You recognize the most important, problematic and operative factor in the current situation, money, and then you intelligently and insight-fully resolve its scarcity so that the individual, commercial agents and the system become a lean, mean freeing machine that serves them rather than slavishly makes them serve it.

Look directly at commerce and its tools and operations until you see, then focus on the solutions there and never stop until they are implemented.

PP:  Banks do not spend money, except trivially to pay salaries and run their buildings, etc. When someone walks into a bank and gets a mortgage loan, the following happens:

1. The banks writes in its books that person X owes the bank $100k plus interest over some years. That’s a loan.
2. The bank and person X write a contract that if X is unable to repay the loan the bank has a right to repossess and sell the house. That’s collateral.
3. The bank writes in its books that the bank credits X’s account $100k, which means the bank promises to pay X $100k whenever they ask. That’s a deposit.
4. At the end of that day the bank checks that it has enough credit with the central bank (the Fed, ECB, etc.) to meet some legal targets, which are fairly low. If not, the bank takes a loan from the central bank. That’s reserves.

Money gets created at step 3, when the bank writes out the loan amount into the customer’s account. That money doesn’t come from anywhere, not from the central bank. The bank creates it. The bank can create money like this because:

* It’s a bank. It has a special license that makes it different from a person or bakery.
* The bank has assets to match or exceed the amount it created (the loan and collateral).
* People accept bank credit as money, and call it money for all intents and purposes.
* The central bank and the government have the bank’s back and promise to guarantee it all if it goes wrong. Except in Europe where they don’t so there’s constant crisis.

I hope this helps.

Me:  Nice, succinct analysis.

Now consider that we currently give one business model (finance) the sole monopolistic right to create the life’s blood (credit/money in the paradigmatic form of debt ONLY) for the survival of every business and every individual.

This is domination and felonious temptation waiting to happen, and because old paradigms are largely unconscious and new ones require a new conscious realization…..all we have to do is stand up on our own hind legs and “stand in the light” of the new paradigm of Direct and Reciprocal Monetary Gifting long enough to perceive it.

JB:  Unfortunately, perhaps, Craig I don’t know of any large global firm which worry’s much about debt, since so much of it disappears into investors in the form of stock. Bank debt, for example, is for consumers & non-incorporated firms, which in the US can generally walk away from with a formal bankruptcy. Two years later they’re on their way legally in most cases.

Me:  Yes, well those large global firms still would need to compete with the small to medium sized corporations who would be able to under sell them with a 50% discount/rebate at the point of retail sale which would make that and other new paradigm policies “an offer even those with global reach could not refuse”. And any line of credit they may need would be better coming from a publicly administered banking system that could offer them such at 0% interest.

RL:  Calgacus, Compare the history of Europe under unbridled nationalism in the first half of the 20th century and the peace and prosperity of Europe in the second half and you’ll understand why your advocacy of nationalism is nonsense. Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it. Those who forget how Europe gained the reputation for being “The Dark Continent (The mass killing field of the world), would not advocate your position. Europeans as nationalist are mass killers. When I studied European history 1952-1965 that was the history we learned. What makes you think that Europe as a bunch of nations won’t revert to old habits. Europe does not have a history of freedom and justice that the nasty
EU EZ is perverting. Its all we can do to keep the Europeans from committing mass murder.

Me:  Robert,

You make excellent and historically accurate points, but there is nothing like the stable prosperity that a new monetary and economic paradigm would effect to make the demagogues and xenophobes crawl back under the rocks they came from and that would also break through upon the ensconced positions of the financial elites.

To Steve Keen: Money: The Doingness Enabler or Disabler of Economics

I couldn’t agree more that neoclassicalism wed to the destruction of energy infrastructure and the closing of the Strait of Hormuz is a recipe for economic and human disaster. But even if we re-open the strait and affirm your very correct critiques we’re still screwed. Why? Because for 50+ years before the current stupidities…scant if zero progress has been made toward resolving the energy and ecological crises that are coalescing before our very eyes. And why is that? Because Money is the enabling or disabling factor for getting things done in the temporal universe, and the current monopoly paradigm for the creation and distribution of all new money, wielded by the private banking system and mistakenly affirmed by governments, is Debt Only…and so restricts the potential for ECONOMIC ACTION UNLESS WE INTEGRATE STRATEGIC MONETARY GIFTING INTO THE DEBT ONLY SYSTEM.

So here’s an additional maxim for you:

Theoretics without the new monetary paradigm of Gifting still perpetuates the problematic corpse/sculpture nature of economics and energy.

Find a way to benefit all economic agents individual and commercial including even the banks with Monetary Gifting and you’ll add problem resolving action to ideas/theoretics…which is a good description of paradigm change.

Grace As In The Innate and Utter Dynamic Powerfullness of Zero Point Energy

So with god, so with the cosmos. The minimized power of zero point energy turns out to be the ineffably basic, dynamic and abundant source of same for the entire joint. God’s grace is the alleged omnipresent gift to us all, if we simply stand in the light of it and decide to experience it. Likewise, the gracious gift of the energy of the zero point…and a little more temporally real, the greatly increased power to do and to have of the new monetary paradigm of Gifting out of the nothingness of the digitally created thing known as money.

Science aided by philosophy is trying to re-orient toward and recapture spirituality coming full circle from its destruction of rigid religious dogmatism during the “enlightenment” and away from its own modern quasi-religious trend. Mental grasping violates the unitary gestalt that is grace.

Steve Hummel 04/04/2026

Monetary Gifting: A Win/Win/Win Phenomenon

The third most important insight of the new monetary and economic paradigm is the realization that the retail point of Finance is one’s monthly automobile, insurance, mortgage or other big ticket item’s payment, and the 50% Discount/Rebate policy applied there means even the banks whose “product” of Debt has up until now always been a wholly exterior and additional very costly parasite on the rest of the economic process…now with monetary gifting actually gets integrated into that process in a beneficial and irresistible way. How? By amending the FED’s charter in order to mandate that they rebate/gift the bank 50% of everyone’s monthly debt contract. So with the 50% Discount/Rebate at both consumer retail sale and financial retail sale as well its a win for the consumer, the regular consumer merchant and also the banks. In other words its a win/win/win.

By the way the most important insight is that the concept behind every historical paradigm change has always been an aspect or aspects of the natural philosophical concept of grace which means all one has to do to implement a paradigm change…is find the relevant aspect of grace and apply it to the system, body of knowledge or area of human endeavor and voila!…paradigm change.

The second most important insight is that changing the monetary and economic paradigm with grace as in Gifting integrates spirituality into economics because its the greatest opportunity to illicit/self actualize grace as in gratitude.

The fourth most important insight is that retail sale is the single inherently macro-economic point in the entire economic process because macro-economics is about aggregates and the aggregate as in everyone must and does have to participate in retail sale makes its effect macro-economic.

The fifth most important insight is the powerfully resolving and beneficial effect of the 50% Discount/Rebate at regular consumer item(s) at retail sale itself.

Repost of Calling Out All Ptolemaic Economists and Rallying Both The General Public and Actually Commercial/Productive Agents 05/28/2023

The three primary policies of the new paradigm:

  1. A 50% Discount/Rebate policy at the point of regular consumer retail sale
  2. A $1000/mo. universal dividend at the age of 18 for life
  3. A 50% Debt Jubilee to the consumer at the point of finance with a 50% Monthly Loan Payment to the Bank by the Central Bank

Economists, if you haven’t tried to find the single applied concept, that is, the new monetary, financial and economic paradigm, and even if you’re the best system’s analyst and most authoritative economic reformer,…you’re a piker, because reforms never last, always get morphed back into something that ends up re-affirming the present paradigm, and genuine new paradigms and their aligned applications are what actually change things PERMANENTLY. So again, if you’re not trying to find the best applications of that specific concept, all you are is a little bird pecking at the monolithic current paradigm when that paradigm needs to be blown to bits…by the new one. Consult history. If you don’t have the guts or the brain power to think conceptually/paradigmatically let those of us who do call the shots.

Mr. and Mrs. John Q. Public and every business model other than private banking, you need to stand up on your own hind legs and finally demand and command your freedom and security….your loved one’s future depends on it. It’s either the private banks continue to rule us or we and every actually legitimate business model benefit and prosper like we’ve never done before by embracing the new paradigm. I set before you slavery or freedom. Therefore choose freedom and all of the constructive purposes and happiness it will enable for you and your posterity.

By whatever legal means possible you need to help build the mass movement to communicate the policies of the new paradigm to others and especially to our elected representatives. Live free and act for freedom…or carry the guilt your fellow man will surely know you deserve.

Posted To Peter Diamandis’ Substack Newsletter 03/29/2026

Great article Peter. I suggest that we take the $1500 per adult x 2 if the household entails a couple…be doubled by implementing a 50% Discount/Rebate policy at retail sale. Voila! the $3000 total dividend becomes $6000/mo and $72000/year worth of purchasing power. Its freshman algebra where -50% of price + 50% of price rebate = 0. , or in this case 50% beneficial price and asset deflation to the consumer and 0 loss of price to the merchant (The policy works with the following process: a 50% reduction in the price of virtually everything to the consumer, and the central bank’s charter is amended to mandate that they rebate the 50% consumer discount back to the merchant thus making them whole on their entire price.) And there are other policies that further benefit all economic agents and resolve and stabilize the economy in my book Wisdomics-Gracenomics available here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C49B9PX7

Posted To Nick Cook’s Substack Nesletter 03/29/2026

Yes, it seems to me that the interface/consciousness concept is about thirdness greater synthesis/oneness of apparent opposites. Its a gestalt, an integrative flowing wholistic understanding. Thirdness has always been about solutions to problems/dualities that tend to become hardened orthodoxies and again appear to be unresolvable. They (thirdnesses) are the signature of wisdom/deeper understandings.

Posted To Steve Keen’s Substack Newsletter 03/29/2026

Yes the poem and your critique of neo-classical theory are beautifully and terrifyingly accurate. The question is how do we convince gross moralist Islamists to re-open the strait and stop pursuing their nuclear weapon ambitions? It seems to me that getting competitors to world dominance to ally themselves in order to convince them to do so is less realistic and less likely than finishing the already mostly accomplished job of the latter. Then offering an uber form of The Marshall Plan to the more rational Persian populace including democratizing the money system with a UBI, a 50% Discount/Rebate policy at retail sale and the rest of the new monetary and economic paradigm policy program I suggest in my book Wisdomics-Gracenomics. History tells us that Money and new applied ideas/paradigms are how things get done and progress takes place, and that avoiding such change is the route to disaster.

Speech Outline

If you make $50k per year how would you like to be able to purchase $100k with that $50k? How would you like to get an even better deal when buying say a $500k house where you only pay the equivalent monthly payment of a $125k loan? Thats what you’re going to learn here today

I. Introducing the 50% Discount/Rebate at Retail Sale. A Paradigm Change in Economics and The Money System With A Single Policy

A. Transformation of chronic painfully erosive inflation into beneficial price and asset deflation. Show the freshman algebra of the discount/rebate math on groceries, an automobile and a new house

B. Demonstration of the policy and Its effects: Doubling of everyone’s purchasing power and simultaneous potential doubling of demand for every commercial agents’ goods and services IOW the definition of good economic times

C. Integrates the normally contentious self interests of consumer and merchant thus it is the answer to the orthodoxies of both capitalism and socialism

D. Show them the math for a 60k EV and a $500k house

E. Show benefits are universal because everyone must and does participate in retail sale and how they are irresistible to both consumer and merchant

F. Introduce and demonstrate the concept of the mega paradigm

G. Show serendipitous nature of the new monetary and economic mega paradigm change and show that its biggest benefit isn’t monetary or economic at all, but psychological/spiritual

H. Finally and affirming the last insight that Gifting begets gratitude, here is the biggest insight of all: The concept behind every historical paradigm change is the natural philosophical concept of grace. Examples.

I. Conclude with repetition of economic and personal benefits

Rebuttal and critique of “Free” Market Theoretics as being a fetishized framework for complete freedom and hence a misnomer for what it actually is which is chaos because there is only freedom within known and enforced/enforceable barriers. Example of yelling Fire! in a theater and statement that economics and the money system are probably the only human systems that don’t have known and enforceable barriers. Libertarians mean well, I’m sure, but again their fetishization of free market theory into total and complete freedom is one of the biggest mental hurdles one needs to overcome in order to see the system as it actually is.

Rebuttal of claim that it will just result in higher inflation (using known and actually enforceable barriers. Also hand demonstartion of chaos, slight freedom with no reform or with palliative reforms and the fact that a paradigm change creates much greater freedom and benefit for everyone not just a self interested party or other minority

Rebuttal of Cynicism…So despite what I just showed you about how beneficial the two primary policies of the new monetary paradigm are for everyone and every economic agent individual and commercial…in the temporal universe that we all inhabit your answer is to not do anything…by not even trying? Thats cynicism, which is the long acculturated and mistaken intellectual disease of modernity…and I’m sorry, I’m sure cynics are otherwise good and decent individuals, but their cynicism is bullshit!!! Why? Because thats exctly what the powers that be want you to think and dowhich is nothing.

Instead of cynicism I prefer to live my life as a very smart Italian guy named Antonio Gramsci advised who said “I’m a pessimist because of intelligence, but an optimist because of will.” which means you will ALWAYS ACT TO BRING ABOUT POSITIVE CHANGE. Furthermore, if Antonio Gramsci was alive and heard of the policies I just gave you I believe he would say Eureka! I have finally discovered how to integrate the opposites of capitalism and socialism into a thirdness greater oneness called Wisdomics-Gracenomics that accomplishes the desired state of the Hegelian dialectic. Thesis, Antithesis and SYNTHESIS.

The 50% Discount/Rebate Policy At Retail Sale: The End of The Quantity Theory of Money and The Establishment of Ethics In The Economy

Why? Because retail sale is simultaneously the terminal summing point of cost and terminal ending point of the entire economic process where production exits the economy and becomes consumption. So even though the result of the policy would be a large increase in the money supply it isn’t inflationary but in fact is beneficially deflationary. Holy Shit Batman! Its a paradigm change in a single policy!

Rebuttal to: “Yeah, well what about if the merchant raises their prices before and/or after the rebate?” No, in order to qualify for the wildly beneficial and so irresistible rebate aspect of the policy (it doubles the potential demand for all of the merchant’s goods and services) the merchant must promise not to inflate more than 2% per annum and to maintain any previous discounts on goods and services…and if they cheat or don’t keep their word any revenue they may garner from such cheating will be taxed at a rate of at least 100%.

That creates free marketing where it didn’t exist before because there are presently no known and actually enforceable barriers in “free” market theoretics. (for instance greedflation, deception, hostile take overs etc. etc.) The 50% Discount/Rebate at retail sale establishes known and enforceable barriers and so also establishes ethics in economics where before commercial agents could yell Fire! in the theater of the economy and get away with it. And if you prefer a world where the “little thing” known as ethics doesn’t actually exist…you live on a different planet than the rest of us inhabit.