Consciously and happily living the third state of being that sees everything from both sides of the looking glass at the same time.
Steve Hummel 03/11/2017
Author: chdwr
Posted To The Social Credit Group 03/11/2017
Me: That’s good solid advice Jim. Actually I’ll venture an extension of Social Credit policy solutions. Why not extend the retail discount policy solution to the retail product of each business model in the economy? In other words the retail product of the mining industry is the resources they take from the ground and sell to producers. The retail product of producers is…whatever product(s) they produce and sell to wholesalers or retailers, and of course the retailer is the end point for the entire process. The end of any economic process is the correct and valid point to apply policy. Each sale by a business model is a stopping point. Extending the discount policy to each business model would invite greater participation and “buy in” to SC theory and policy, help to better saturate the economy with monetary gifting and so more thoroughly integrate that new paradigm into the present monetary paradigms of Debt, Loan and For Production ONLY…helping to make gifting the primary one instead of Debt etc. It also would further guard against these businesses/models from exploiting the additional demand they saw coming via the dividend to incrementally inflate their prices.
DM: Steve, if you do a spreadsheet to model this, you will find this to be enormously inflationary. Douglas had the math right. You only offer the CP to the end consumers. Intermediate producers don’t need rebates to prosper. All they need is for there to be enough money in the economy to empower effective demand in consumers at large, and they need to offer a product those consumers actually want to buy. The present order of things only offers the latter. The gap constrains the former.
Me: Ok, but I don’t see how extending the discount to every business model in any way would or could create price inflation so long as it continued to be policy at retail sale as well. And the more the cost of operating enterprise at all levels and business models is reduced the more profit and hence ability to re-invest that profit instead of using new finance which is spectacularly expensive compared to re-investment of profit. The less need to borrow the more the business model of Finance is downsized. The business model of Finance has been problematic for over 5000 years, and the monopolistic powers of Finance to enforce compound interest is the primary STRUCTURAL economic problem whose power prevents a sane and fair policy like a simple interest mark up for services provided. The Social Credit A + B systemic economic insight would still apply of course, and the monetary paradigms of Debt, Loan and For Production ONLY are the primary, deeper and philosophical problem) but integrating the macro/aggregated policy at retail with a micro/individual enterprise policy…integrates and solidifies the effects of those policies.
GM: a one man or small consultancy of which there are now many. Lots of businesses have laid off staff and brought them back as independent contractors/consultants. I know freelance writers incorporated for tax purposes, whose only real “expense” is their own pay. You can find Indian software engineers who use the same business model and generate customers through online search engines. Wake up and smell the New Economy coffee.
Me: Even if such enterprises were the only ones in the economy, which of course they’re not and won’t be until the Star Trek replicator technology becomes a reality for creating fixed assets and productive facilities, profit being a systemic cost of doing business would reduce individual incomes in ratio to total costs/prices.
A + B still would apply and require some level of costless individual income supplement and a reduction of price at retail sale as well.
JS: Hi Joe,
Excellent analysis as always. My frustration with Greg is his unwillingness to even try to understand Social Credit, and then making accusations towards me based upon something someone else wrote. His misunderstandings of the A+B theorem and Social Credit stem from this unwillingness to even try to learn about it.
However, you are right in that he has a very legitimate criticism about our inability to sell the concept to a general audience. I have actually spoken about this at great length with Oliver. You are also correct in asserting that the political route is a dead end, and that the excuse of “suppression”, while probably true at one time, is no longer relevant.
I think the problem is multifaceted, but this is what I believe.
1) People who are attracted to Social Credit today tend to be high in IQ, but not necessarily very high in EQ. We understand the concepts and can communicate them among ourselves, but have an extraordinarily hard time communicating them to others. None of us are “salesmen”, and are likely the type of people who hate salesmen. I know that I’m someone who hates it when someone is trying to “sell” me something.
2) We haven’t learned one key aspect of Social Credit as it pertains to promoting it – the increment of association. We are all out doing our own thing, and none of us act in any coordinated manner (I actually think this is our biggest impediment). We need to organize, and create an organizational structure. At one time we had one (the Secretariat), but I would think everyone on this list would agree that Francis has sabotaged that organization (intentionally or unintentionally) with her socialist leanings.
3) The information age has some great attributes, but I think one of the negative factors of the information age is that people want all their information quickly. Social Credit is a concept that takes time to grasp. Further, when we do put out information, like Oliver’s excellent book, it’s too long for most people to want to read. I think we are not making use of the youtube medium properly. I like what Robert has done, but we need music and effects to make people want to watch it, not just a person talking – something along the lines of Zeitgeist.
Anyway, those are my thoughts.
Take care.
Me: Excellent insights both Joe and Jim. Social Credit’s most difficult problem is that it’s basic philosophy and policies are based on a new economic and monetary paradigm. The curse of any new paradigm is that in perceiving it and then trying to communicate it….you go completely out of communication with virtually everyone….because the old paradigm and all of its valid or invalid justifications is generally and habitually held in the minds of everyone. That’s just the nature of a paradigm which is a generally held idea and its habitual justifications.
And you’re also both right that we need a modern way to organize and get our message out. The group of disciples was the youtube and facebook of the day when Christ communicated the new spiritual paradigm of Grace in the first century. So let’s use facebook and youtube. Christ’s guerrilla marketing technique was to over turn the tables of the money changers and then get on about his ministry. We need a similar tactic to get attention. I’ve raised the idea of an organization focused on dissimilar political constituencies like students and the small to medium sized business community. I think that if you also included the very large constituency of women and showed them how social credit would better give them the option of being either a parent or a professional…or both, that such a message would far out compete the feminist “option” of becoming a careerist who burns out from over work, job instability and lack of full fulfillment in either area. Puzzlingly at least to me, each time I’ve suggested such there is a resounding silence here. I’ve suggested similar things to Ellen about integrating the Public Banking and Social Credit insights and gotten little feedback as well.
Where There Is Little or No Ethics So There Is Little Actual Consciousness
Consciousness of one’s Self denotes that everyone else is conscious as well. Self awareness is the basis for all ethics and morals.
The economy and money systems are almost exquisitely unethical anymore, and the reason for this is there’s no actual consciousness of Self in those systems. Unfortunately most humans are barely self aware in the first place, and the enforced monetary scarcity and consequent stress and insecurity just reinforces that reality.
The Master Cosmic Code Equation
[ (Physical Reality x Mental-Abstract Reality) <–> Spiritual/Conscious/Self Awareness Reality ]
This is both the essential human and overall cosmic application of the code.
The Cosmic Code is the algorithm of Wisdom/Integration and the pinnacle aspect and result of Wisdom is Consciousness/Spirituality/Love/Grace, i.e. Love in action individually and systemically. The ultimate algorithm and Master Cosmic Code is the one that unites all three basic realities.
Scientific Mysteries Are Inversions of/Not Yet Fully Integrated and More Inclusive Spiritual Insights
The biggest example of this currently is probably the scientific mystery of Dark Energy. Science considers it “Dark” because they cannot see or measure it. The real problem is science only tolerates/is bound by empiricism and positivism, and so has an irrationally generalized mistrust of intuitive/experiential knowledge. This is not to blindly and dogmatically choose intuitive/experiential knowledge over its scientific equivalent, but rather integrate the two in a rigorously open and honest fashion. Science is a form of Wisdom after all, and is also a Trinity-Unity-Oneness-Wholeness-Process of
[ Hypothesis <–> (Dualistic comparison of data to that hypothesis) ]
and an open minded and ongoing integration of truths…..if it is actually good science. And the signature of scientific breakthrough is the integration of the scientific method and an aspect of consciousness…like Einstein’s visualization of a man leaping out of a window and “sliding” down space-time.
Generally people who have had an intense experience of the present moment describe it, amongst other superlatives, as an effortless and serene expansion of their attention, awareness and perception of the physical universe. This hints at the integration of the scientific and spiritual modes of thought/experience enabling the perception of an inherently expansive “energy” which is a natural part of the cosmos and is actually consciousness itself. It also begs the realization that characterizing “Dark” energy as such is a blinding and excluding orthodoxy of the scientific mode only that leads to an inverse labeling of “Dark ” when it is very likely the en”lightening” personal experience of this scientific/spiritual integration.
The Thirdness-Oneness Factor of Grace/Consciousness (or its reflective equivalents in whatever problem in whatever body of knowledge under discussion) Is The Subtle and Yet Operant, Clarifying and Resolving Factor In Each and Every Problem
A problem being defined as a dualism of opposing ideas, theories, paradigms, forces, intentions that holds the problem in suspension and hence in effect.
Thinking in terms of trinity-unity-oneness/consciousness is the key to understanding.
This is the message of The Cosmic Code which stated is:
an integrated duality within an integrative trinity-unity-oneness/wholeness-process and formulated temporally as:
[ ( A x B) <–> G/C ]
or its conscious/spiritual inversion:
[ G/C <–> (A x B) ]
which then is stated as an integrative trinity-unity-oneness/wholeness-process that also contains an integrated duality.
In His Latest Video Steve Keen Is Slowly Coming Around To Recognizing The Validity and Necessity of Social Credit’s Policies
And eventually he’ll probably come to recognize that my Wisdomics/Gracenomics is the philosophical, policy, scientific and spiritual extension of even Social Credit.
QE for the people is essentially a non-continuous approximation of Social Credit’s national/universal dividend. Also. “a modern debt jubilee” is an intelligent response to the huge debt bubble we ran up before the GFC (Great Financial Crisis). They’re both based on the philosophical concept of Grace as in Gifting
He hasn’t cognited on the efficacy of a retail discount nor my extension of that policy, namely extending the discount to the retail product that every business model has in every stage of the productive process which would increase the “buy in” of virtually all businesses and business models and also work to inhibit arbitrary demand-pull inflation. It would also help to saturate the entire economy with Grace/Monetary Gifting thus swapping out/inverting that new economic and monetary paradigm making it the prime one instead of Debt being prime as it is presently. An integration of truths/realities and a swapping out/inversion of primacy is the signature of paradigm change as was the Copernican helio-centric cosmological paradigm simply a swapping /inverting of the positions of the earth and the sun.
The discount policy is based upon the the fact that Wisdom is an inward and deepening process. Viz Wisdom and economics this points at the fact that cost accounting is a subset/within the entirety of double entry bookkeeping and below the surface of the deceptively and apparently equilibrating dualistic mechanism of debits and credits or even the surface trinity of assets, liabilities and owner’s equity. The problem being the effects of cost and time that create the moment to moment reality of the scarcity ratio of total individual income to total costs/prices. The discount policy is also the Wisdom insight that the temporal universe is completely governed by the trinity-unity-oneness/wholeness-process known as Start, Change and Stop, and that stop/the stops in the economic/productive process are where costs for any item are terminally summed and hence the logical, clarifying, unobtrusive and freeing place and time to implement a monetary policy that can benefit both/all agents and simultaneously harm neither/any of them. This insures its ethical status and the policy itself helps to regulate and govern the primary structural and ethical problem, the monopolistic, dominating and manipulating business model of Finance.
Keen’s and some Social Credit advocate’s lingering attachment to tools and orthodoxies of DSGE inhibit more complete understanding of Social Credit’s basic philosophy and hence make them think in terms of a scarce dividend and discount and also inhibits the understanding that the true solution to A + B is not a statistical balancing, but rather, as in the swapping/inversion of paradigms, so the actual solution to the scarcity ratio of total individual incomes to total costs/prices is a continual inversion of that ratio making it an abundance of individual incomes in ratio to costs/prices via an abundant dividend and a high percentage rate and extension of the discount mechanism thus making it “the higher disequilibrium ratio” that continually downsizes the problematic and dominating business model of Finance.
Douglas after all was the first disequilibrium theorist…and a major aspect of the concept and experience of Grace is a dynamic process of continual change, i.e a dynamic balancing of continually disequilibrating factors. Hence a mere statistical balancing actually leaves “the business cycle” in effect and is like a failed orbital wave cycle, it goes up, but it also must go down. A trajectory of greater thrust/income in ratio to gravity/cost/price results in the free flowingness of orbit and thus again, an abundant, free flowing disequilibrium ratio of factors.
Insight/Vision
The average person talks primarily about other people. The intellectual talks primarily about issues. The above average mind thinks about ideas, and the truly insightful individual is able to perceive how new ideas, if generally held and integrated into present paradigms, could actually and truly enable human progress.
Steve Hummel 03/04/2017
Posted To Mish Shedlock’s Blog 03/04/2017
Unfortunately, this guy and you are both blinded by economic and financial orthodoxy. It isn’t government that is the real problem it is government that blindly avoids integrating the new financial paradigm of Gifting into the debt based money system…..so that profit making systems will survive.
We need economics to fulfill its natural purpose of cost and price efficiency, and also to transcend the puritanical attachment to employment as the ONLY way to make the system work. Wisdom would be recognizing that the monopolistic paradigms of finance are what is pushing profit making systems toward an inevitable and unconscious socialism.
It IS different this time, but even if the precipitous fall in the rational need for human input into the productive process wasn’t baked in the cake….we SHOULD still embrace monetary Gifting ANYWAY. Why? Because the current Financial monopolistic paradigms are dominating. Because domination is intrinsically unethical. Because this domination is what holds us back economically, culturally and spiritually, and is also the glue that holds most of our social, geo-political (warring) and environmental problems in suspension.
It’s a gigantic neurosis that is causing and intensifying all of the social-political contentiousness we see taking place right before our eyes….and pitifully you and almost every other economist and pundit is blind to it. So blind that you, an advocate of Austrian economic theory, can’t even see that integrating monetary Gifting into profit making systems with its dual policies of a universal dividend and a retail price discount are the best and fastest ways TO ACCOMPLISH THE AUSTRIAN DEFLATIONARY AGENDA, the best way to get rid of the bureaucracies of welfare, unemployment insurance and social security, the best way to downsize the bloated defense budget, the best way to de-tooth and transform the FED, etc. etc. etc. resolving everyone of the gripes of Austrian and libertarian theory. The stubborn and arrogant liberal, conservative, Keynesian, Austrian etc. dogmatists ARE THE PROBLEM. Integrate their truths and delete their untruths. Integration of truths and deletion of untruths is Wisdom. Dogmatism is stupidity. Wisdom cannot be dogmatism because it is integration of ONLY truths. Wake up will ya!?
Thirdness/Trinity-Unity-Wholeness-Process: The Secret Ever Present Reality of Everything In Every Sphere
Threeness is the signature of Spirit Within Embodiment…..and Embodiment Within Spirit,the Pinnacle of Wisdom/Grace, Unity, Wholeness, Oneness, Process, Completeness, Underlyingness, Primacy, Continuity, the Superlative, Bothness and Bothness/Andness, Totality, Addition Within Summation-Sequence/Fibonacci, Freedom, Free Flowingness, non-grasping and holding, non-obsession, and finally FULL Consciousness.
Personally, TUWP is walking talking cognition-awakening of consciousness, and that is Grace. Everything is actually Grace, even shit, piss and corruption. You just have to integrate it, fully consciously experience it and get past it to the next moment of Grace.
Social Credit/Wisdomics/Gracenomics/ Gracientialism 