Ellen Brown:  I had a bit of an epiphany the other day as I was just waking up. When people start having transcendental experiences, realizing there is “something else”, something better that is within ourselves with no need for material possessions to acquire it, that’s when we’ll turn from this brutal competitive financialized existence to the Om state, cooperation, Grace, and goodwill.

Me:  Bravo, and congratulations on that insight! And remember that it is no coincidence that the major aspects of the concept/experience of Grace are Balance, Equilibrium, Flow and a dynamic internal sense of abundant enoughness..and the classical goals of economic theory and policy are exactly the same.

Me:  Yes Bob. It’s the thing all libertarians forget because of the blindness caused by orthodoxy. And a system based on the individual and their self development and economic freedom FIRST and FOREMOST is precisely what is required.

Money as an idea rather than a commodity is what? Ubiquitous (everywhere), therefore democratically abundant, thus not manipulable by an elite and if accompanied by adult and Wise balance and equilibrium, that is SYSTEMICALLY Debt is completely balanced with monetary grace/Gifting and equilibrated within and through Time by mechanisms that are economically valid and up to the job individually and systemically…then you’re talking about a system and situation that is of, for and by the individual.

Ubiquity/omnipresence, abundance, non-manipulability/freedom, adulthood/Wisdom, balance, equilibrium, interpenetration in the moment and flow through each moment of Time i.e. both being and becoming, both/andness, i.e. integration itself and Wisdom/applicability both individually and temporally in systems…..are all aspects of Grace/Wisdom/Self Awareness/Consciousness. That is the individual/psychological/systemic totality,completeness and wholeness of the matter.

And of course Public Banking as both a structurally balancing entity and as a paradigmatic balancing concept operating in the true interests of the individual in calculating and distributing the Dividend monies and Discount percentage is an intimate part of the balancing paradigm/idea of Gifting itself.

Me:  Paul Mason is a former Trotskyite in transition. As he says his politics are “complicated”. And that is a very good sign for him. But remember….Wisdom is integration ONLY OF THE TRUTHS AND WORKABILITIES of seemingly opposing ideas/systems…and not the inclusion of any of the untruths or un-workabilities of same….like for instance ONLY THE re-distribution of (inadequate) income as opposed to a macro-economic ADDITION to INDIVIDUAL incomes and an increase of individual purchasing power via a retail discount.

Capitalism and Socialism are dead! Long live the truly integrated evolution of both…the DISTRIBUTIVE economic theory of Social Credit in alliance with the structural and paradigmatic concept of Public Banking!!!

Bob Bowes:  I agree that in a world where technology is able to greatly reduce the labor required to produce sustainable productivity, social credit necessarily plays a role, in conjunction with an economic bill of rights, a network of public banks (without usury), verifiable voting, and decentralization of the media–as a baseline–as well as the evolution of consciousness required to subscribe to and implement these practices.

Me: An alliance/an actual integration/ and a mass social movement of Public Banking and Social Credit for all of those things and a new monetary and economic paradigm of grace/gifting…is the way forward and the way Home.

Bob Bowes:  “Debt is completely balanced with monetary grace …”

Me:  Correct. But the economy IS monetary and money is an excellent and facile tool….if balanced and transformed by Grace/graciousness.

Bob Bowes:  I find the use of the term grace in this context confusing. It also carries with it specific religious connotations that, I would suggest, are better left off the table. Instead, I use consciousness.

Me:  I do very much agree with you that tactically the word Grace needs to be used or avoided in an intelligent and marketing sense….while still all the time recognizing its philosophical/psychological/spiritual resonance (not necessarily religious) relevance and reality.

This is neither philosophical/marketing slipperiness nor lack of integrity…it is actually a true integration, i.e. a complete and inclusive integration of truths/truthfulness and bothness/Duality.

I hope everyone here remembers and notices that I often use the conceptually aligning practice of placing a slant (/) as in Wisdom/Grace/Self Awareness/Consciousness in my posts.

Graciousness as in granting of beingness to the other is also the epitome of personal Wisdom which being the internal integrative process itself is thus an expansive, inclusive and toleration building one….and so enables the inclusive integration of both religious viewpoints and non-religious ones as well. I am a complete agnostic, but I refuse to throw the baby of NATURAL psychological or Supernatural Grace (however and whichever it is considered/conceived to be) out with neither the pre-scientific religious dogmas that so often attend it…nor the modern scientistic biases that might (mistakenly) exclude or reject the natural allies of religious folk to a movement that NEEDS to be INCLUSIVE to be effective.

Me:  Upon a little reflection Monetary Gifting should be used with secular audiences, and Grace the free monetary gift when addressing religious audiences.

Bob Bowes:  I can’t say that I see guaranteed income or social credit as gifting. It’s more a right.

Me:  Slip in the word “additional” between “everyone” and “money” and you’ve got Gifting, paradigmatic balance and systemic transformation right along with reform, and Distribution instead of (the temptation to) re-distribution.

Integration is a combination, synthesis, expansion and elevation of truth(s) ONLY, not the poison pill of compromise which is the institutionalization of truth(s) and untruth(s) and hence inevitably productive of conflict, stagnation and decline.

Me in response to an article posted on Ellen’s forum about the ECB and Greek Debt:

The inherent instability and disequilibrium of modern economies due to the unbalanced monopolistic paradigm of Debt ONLY still remains, and by that definition results in an absence of monetary grace/Gifting. The entire ECB process and thinking is palliative “can kicking”/bailing out of an inevitably sinking ship. Steve Keen has correctly and astutely recognized the disequilibrated nature of modern economies. Being a nascent, awakening Social Crediter he has not yet cognited on the only valid macro-economic and monetary policy mechanisms that are up to the task of actually resolving the Debt ONLY paradigm.

The ECB will probably string this all out until all debt is made sovereign thus pushing it off onto the populace…instead of simply writing it off. That is the anti-thesis of Grace.