Posted To A Thread on RWER Blog

Me:  All of this discussion is well and good, however, none of it focuses on and penetrates to the heart of the economic problem which is indeed the monetary paradigm.

There is no end to history so yes uncertainty is radical, but true and enduring progress does occur with paradigm changes….and history and the eventual new zeitgeist….that the concept behind the new monetary paradigm and behind ALL historic paradigm changes, will eventually make our times seem as primitive and un-evolved….as they actually are.

Decentralization: The Good and The Bad

Decentralization is good if it benefits the individual in some way. It can be very bad when it occurs in an area of human endeavor that needs the hierachical ordering and ascension of philosophy and ethics, like in economics and the money system for instance.

This is where bitcoin and block chain fail. They are trying to evolve technically without taking into consideration that all human systems require the solidly hierarchical guidance of philosophy and ethics while the present economic and money system already is afflicted with a lack of ethics due to its being driven by tawdry philosophy.

The only philosophical concept sufficient to integrate both power and ethics is grace as it is the pinnacle concept of human wisdom, love. Grace is the active temporal universe form of love both in individual interaction and as policy in human systems. That means it is redemption of individual and systemic corruption via personal introspection and correction and systemic thinking and policy. Without this hierarchical mental necessity any attempt at evolution will fail because ethics is a human reality no matter to whom or to what one attributes that necessity to.

Decentralization is good in that it denotes empowerment to the individual. Grace is a universal suffrage concept that does the same while also being a bulwark against individualism becoming chaos and the mental illness of narrcissism.

First things first. Bring real ethics and the real wisdom of thoroughgoing philosophy to the economy and money system before you try to decentralize it into its already ethically compromised state.

Personal Quote

Economics doesn’t need another data point “insight” it needs an entirely new philosophy, a philosophy which alters the entire pattern of economics in beneficial ways for every agent individual and commercial and makes the system flow with the abundant fluidity that the current data point rich pattern claims to accomplish but actually fails to actually provide.                                                                                                    Steve Hummel 09/12/2019

Personal Quote

The wise seek out and find the elementally truthful factors and insights, that integrated, lead to true progress both within oneself and in the temporal universe. Complexities are all well and good and the wise heed them….and combine them in ways that transcend their mere data point significances. Thinking is several rungs down the ladder of epistemology from looking and knowing.                         Steve Hummel 09/12/2019

Post About Nationalizing The Money System and The Philosophical Concept of Grace On Ellen Brown’s Forum

L:  CH Douglas had a lot to say about how nationalizing a central bank would be jumping from the frying pan into the fire.  You would do well to read what he had to say about it before you advocate it.  It might change your thinking.  Send me an email and I’ll email the PDF book.  Or you could ask Jim or Wally for the quotes on the SC forum.  I took great pains to frame my recommendations in my own book to avoid exactly those pitfalls, and you already have a copy of that.  I recommend that you add a paragraph outlining the pitfalls.  Of course, you might also mentioned that the Fed itself is completely in oppostition to the Constitution itself that mandates the regulation of money to Congress – not a foreign-owned corporation that serves the interests of international finance instead of the American people. It can’t hurt to speak the truth.  Quote Article 1, Section 8.

JR:  Hi Liam.

Douglas  was very much against privatising the trading bakns, with which I totally agree.

But what banking institution did he forsee to create the money for public use?  Obviously not the Credit Authority, which simp[ly woulod have the job of working out how much.   Treasury?
I don’t remember finding this in any of his writings or in discussion.
Many central banks, especially in British Commonwealth countries, are publicly owned now.
In NZ, we advocate using our (cleansed) Reserve Bank for the purpose and an independent arm of it as the Credit Authority. .Prtobably its present Debt Management Office would take  a Credit Management function.  Our first labour Govt. very successfully used R B funding.
However, the USA “Fed.” ssems to be in a totally different class, and this group is, of course, mainly cponcerned with that scene.

Me:  I have a great deal of respect for CH Douglas, however, he lived before there was a conscious concept of a paradigm change. He also lived in GB which did not have a constitution. He also leaned toward the Tory perspective which at best is a mixed bag of economic truths and untruths.

A truly national banking, financial and monetary system IMO will need to be a fourth branch of government in order to best prevent the idiot political, economic and human psychological prejudices from unduly influencing it that will unfortunately be with us in perpetuity.
Besides that the way to keep the money system (and any and all other systems) free and ethical will be to make damned good and sure that its policies, regulations and structures are aligned with the philosophical concept of grace which is the pinnacle concept of human wisdom/integrative thought, namely love in action, and policy is the action of systems of course. Grace is not namby-pamby nonsense. Any concept that can successfully encompass and integrate both love and sovereignty is both ethical and practical….you just have to contemplate its aspects long enough to self actualize them.

JR:  Douglas, by comparison, was an internationally renowned consulting Engineer.  He was brought in by the UK govt during WW1 to bring efficient organisation to the aircraft industry at Farnsborough.

No man is infallible, but there must have been hundreds of thousands of managers, consultants etc.  who dealt with the sort of data he did.  He was the only one brilliant enough to detect the fault in the economic system that was the cause of many problems.  He predicted accurately the recessions of the 1020’s and 30’s.
He presented a well thought out plan to counter the problems, not just a vacuous series on semi-meaningless phrases and irresponsible promises.

Me:  That “vacuous series of semi-meaningless phrases and irresponsible promises” is actually an integration of the insights of cutting edge quantum physics, trans-personal human psychology and man’s various wisdom traditions plus a deeper and more elemental study of the signatures of historically accomplished paradigm changes than Kuhn’s informative but merely abstract observations of same…..all applied to economics and the money system.

 
The regressive forces of Douglas’s day said the exact same kind of things about his insights. 
 
Derision is one of the primary indications that the orthodox (of even a superior theory) have failed to grasp wisdom and so have unconsciously succumbed to their own enemy’s tactics. 

GA:  Trump wants three things. He wants to perform a negative rate default on our bonds so he doesn’t have to pay interest to the Chinese. Remember he wanted to default on bonds? This is a backup plan.

Second, he wants to weaken the dollar.
Third, he wants to increase the size of the tariffs, and wants a rate cut to help businesses to weather the tariff escalation.
However, Trump also appears to be blinking on trade, wanting an interim agreement. But even that is not confirmed. China succeeds if their businesses move elsewhere. The profits still roll in and it helps belt and road.
We will suffer inflation if the economy slows and tariffs go up. The Chinese will save money buying their own products in place of US imports.
The Chjnese have savings while our people are in debt. We can’t possibly win the trade war.

Me:  Tarrifs are not only a losing game for high cost technologically advanced non-export platform economies they are deadly old paradigm thinking.

Why not reduce costs and double individual purchasing power with a policy that eliminates any possibility of price and asset inflation (the 50% Discount/Rebate policy at retail sale) which will additionally allow us to re-industrialize in the most efficient, productive and ecologically sane way possible. Then very quickly the Chinese and every other export platform nations will have to go exploit elsewhere….or (horrors) copy the new paradigm and free their populace as well.
Freedom. It’s a scary concept to those conditioned to slavery and tyranny.
S:  What does it mean when we have numerous billionaires jumping on the social credit bandwagon? Should we suppose they have suddenly discovered a soft place in their cold capitalist hearts for the downtrodden masses? I think not. If this happens, I guarangodamnedteeya it won’t be what people imagine. This will be a cover to eliminate social programs, and it will end up redistributing yet MORE wealth upwards, and increasing poverty at the bottom.

 
Do you know who supports the implementation of a UBI besides Andrew Yang? Billionaires. Lots of billionaires, especially the new money tech billionaires who are positioning themselves to inherit the earth in the transition to a new paradigm dominated by automation and artificial intelligence. Billionaires like Jeff BezosPierre OmidyarMark ZuckerbergJack DorseyElon MuskRichard BransonBill GrossTim Draper, and more moderately Bill Gates have all been seen advocating for a policy that is now being popularized as one which would level the economic playing field and take power away from the billionaire class.Now why would that be? Why would a group of people who’ve clawed their way up to positions of immense wealth control, enabling them to live as modern-day kings, be so eager to suddenly give away that power? Why would they break with the trend we’ve consistently observed in rulers since the dawn of recorded history and voluntarily relinquish the power they fought to claim without a fight? Are billionaires just naturally good people inherently predisposed to compassionate action and wealth redistribution? Have we been wrong about Jeff Bezos being a real-life supervillain this entire time?

Of course not. This increasingly powerful class of new money tech plutocrats are not pushing to give power away, they’re pushing to secure more. As Jimmy Stewart’s character says in It’s A Wonderful Life, Potter isn’t selling, Potter’s buying.”  https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/universal-basic-income-automation-plutocracy-dystopia-efc14f526037

UBI’s daunting financing challenges raise fundamental questions about its political feasibility, both now and in coming decades. Proponents often speak of an emerging left-right coalition to support it. But consider what UBI’s supporters on the right advocate. They generally propose UBI as a replacement for the current “welfare state.” That is, they would finance UBI by eliminating all or most programs for people with low or modest incomes.

Consider what that would mean. If you take the dollars targeted on people in the bottom fifth or two-fifths of the population and convert them to universal payments to people all the way up the income scale, you’re redistributing income upward. That would increase poverty and inequality rather than reduce them.

Yet that’s the platform on which the (limited) support for UBI on the right largely rests. It entails abolishing programs from SNAP (food stamps) — which largely eliminated the severe child malnutrition found in parts of the Southern “black belt” and Appalachia in the late 1960s — to the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), Section 8 rental vouchers, Medicaid, Head Start, child care assistance, and many others. These programs lift tens of millions of people, including millions of children, out of poverty each year and make tens of millions more less poor.

Some UBI proponents may argue that by ending current programs, we’d reap large administrative savings that we could convert into UBI payments. But that’s mistaken. For the major means-tested programs — SNAP, Medicaid, the EITC, housing vouchers, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and school meals — administrative costs consume only 1 to 9 percent of program resources, as a CBPP analysis explains.[1] Their funding goes overwhelmingly to boost the incomes and purchasing power of low-income families.

Moreover, as the Roosevelt Institute’s Mike Konczal has noted, eliminating Medicaid, SNAP, the EITC, housing vouchers, and the like would still leave you far short of what’s needed to finance a meaningful UBI.[2] Would we also end Pell Grants that help low-income students afford college? Would we terminate support for children in foster care, for mental health services, and for job training?

Ed Dolan, who favors UBI, has calculated that we could finance it by using the proceeds from eliminating all means-tested programs outside health care — including Pell Grants, job training, Head Start, free school lunches, and the like, as well as refundable tax credits, SNAP, SSI, low-income housing programs, etc. The result, Dolan found, would be an annual UBI of $1,582 per person, well below the level of support most low-income families (especially working-poor families with children) now receive. The increase in poverty and hardship would be very large.

Me:  Do billionaires know there own interests? Of course. Are there cabals and cartels in major industries? Of course. But most grand conspiracies are actually just the accumulation over time of systems designed to keep the very wealthy in control. In order to end elite control you have to change the paradigm, the entire pattern. Reforms are incapable of doing that.

How do we finance UBI (which is not aligned with abundance as basic is just another word for scarce)? Screw taxation, you do it with direct monetary distributism implemented and stabilized by making its major policy a 50% discount at the incredibly powerful point of retail sale. This immediately doubles everyone’s purchasing power and ends any possibility of inflation in one fell swoop because retail sale is where production becomes consumption….and no one can force you to pay more for something after retail sale (except the banks of course) because if possession is 90% of the law I guarantee you consumption is 99.99 percent of economics.  Has anyone here ever gone to the store and bought $100 worth of groceries and then when they got home got a call from the manager of the store who said, “Hi, the front office just said that inflation went up 30% so please don’t eat those carrots and whatever you do don’t use the toilet tissue ’cause it’s real hard to reshelf….before you give us another $30. Thanks, have a nice day.  No. Never. Because retail sale is not only the terminal ending point of the entire economic/actually productive process it is also the terminal summing point for all costs and so prices including profit and finally is also the terminal expression point for any and all forms of inflation. So if you now make $40k you can now purchase $80k worth of goods and services, or maintain your current $40k lifestyle on $20k and save $20k which when you spend it will purchase $40k worth of goods and services. And with a $1000/mo universal dividend you get $2000/mo. or $24k of additional purchasing power. A married couple with two 20/hr per week part time jobs at $9/hr would make $180/wk x 2 people = $360/wk x 2 with the 50% discount at retail sale = $720 x 4 wks/mo. = $2880/mo + $2000/mo. universal dividend x 2 = $4000/mo = a total of $6880 worth of purchasing power/mo. or $82,560 of purchasing power/yr.
Inflation? Nope. If you look at garden variety “monetary” inflation it has always been a small single digit percentage point except during and after wars or only after the price of the most important commodity of present civilization, oil, has been arbitrarily jacked up (which means it was actually cost inflation not “monetary” inflation as its cause).
Modern high tech economies are very costly operations hence they can’t afford to raise their prices except a few percentage points without fear of losing market share. And Ellen you know that hyper inflations never occur without specific disastrous circumstances happening first and only after a compliant central bank leverages up speculators who short the currency.
A DIRECTLY DISTRIBUTIVE $1000/mo universal dividend and a 50% Discount/Rebate policy at retail sale integrates beneficial price and asset inflation into profit making economic systems…..and it actually allows us to cut both transfer and individual income taxes for virtually everyone which will enable us to integrate the normally opposing constituency of the small to medium sized business community onto labor’s side. That’s a pattern change not a measly little reform.
And once you’ve shown how universally beneficial strategically implemented direct monetary distributism is….you can expose the private for profit banking system as the completely unnecessary parasite it actually is. Then you can implement a NATIONAL publicly administered NON-PROFIT financial and monetary system and implement an additional 50% Discount/Rebate policy at the point of note signing making a $300k house costing only $75k at 0% interest, a $40k battery powered auto $10k and $40k worth of solar panels also $10k.
The truth is both cut throat capitalism and re-distributive socialism are passe’. You just have to look at how to implement the thirdness greater oneness of Directly Distributive and Reciprocal Monetary Gifting….and the scales fall from your eyes.

Posted To RWER BlogRegarding Wisdom/Integration

A good and correct post. However, we are doomed unless every economist and economic pundit quits fiddle faddling around with genuine but separate insights that are aligned with the new paradigm of direct and reciprocal monetary gifting….but are unconscious of that concept and precisely where, when and how to implement it.

Every data point, every reform, every preaching to the academic and chattering class choir moves us a thousandth of a millimeter closer to the goal of monetary freedom, economic stability and ecological survival.

On the other hand communicating the benefits to both the individual and enterprise of the handful of policies, regulations and structural changes of the new paradigm and building a mass movement that herds the political apparatus toward legislating and executing it would integrate the good intentions of all such reform movements and save us from our own apparent lack of survival instincts.

Post To RWER Blog…About The Real Problem

The real economic problem is much worse and much more insidious than simply DSGE and its rational expectations etc. etc. fallacious assumptions. It’s the long term 5000 year old assumption that private or publicly controlled finance and its equally long paradigm of Debt Only as the sole form and vehicle for the distribution of money. It is like breathing. We/re normally unconscious of it until like 2008 we can’t breathe/finance all of a sudden and it comes home to us in a panic how important breathing/a more than adequate amount of money is continuously available for exchange.

Keen nailed it with his de-bunking of DSGE and Hudson is spot on in his identifying finance as a huge parasite on the rest of the actually productive economy…IT’S JUST THAT THEY DIDN’T KNOW HOW TO PROCEED IN TRANSCENDING BOTH CAPITALISM AND SOCIALISM WITH ABUNDANTLY DIRECT AND RECIPROCAL MONETARY DISTRIBUTISM AT THE POINT OF RETAIL SALE….and of course a relative handful of further regulations and a structural change or two..

How many times do we have to beat the dead steed of DSGE etc. and keep droning on with our particular (correct) social science insights?

“It’s the monetary paradigm, stupid.”, the insight of the policy power point of retail sale with a 50% Discount/Rebate monetary policy there and the ultimate integrative philosophical concept of grace as in monetary gifting leading and guiding the consequently transformed economy.

Thou Shalt Not…

Thou shalt not ignore the obvious signatures of paradigm changes like:

1) conceptual opposition to the current paradigm,

2) complete inversion of individual and systemic realities,

3) a new insight and/or tool,

4) resolution of long term seemingly unsolvable problems,

5) non-comprehension,

6) occasional derision

7) caution regarding paradigm changes despite the presence of long term problems in the area of the paradigm change and even clear signs of political and economic disintegration therefrom

Important Thread on RWER Blog About Not Actually Looking and Caution When Action Is Required

Y:  John, perhaps you rely too much on wishful thinking. Paradigm shift does not occur spontaneously. It is not a natural phenomenon. Have you ever imagined why Ptolemaic system continued more than one thousand years and how it came to be overturned?

Me:  Yes that is what Kuhn observed. Yet when a paradigm shift does occur it is both personally spontaneous and (depending upon whether it directly effects virtually everyone in the present moment, i.e. a mega-paradigm shift) it is a rapid temporal universe change as well. The Copernican cosmological paradigm change was genuine, but the shift to agriculture, homesteading and urbanization from hunting and gathering was a mega-paradigm shift. Today a paradigm shift in economics, finance and money would fit this category and given the rapidity and ubiquitous nature of our technological advancement such a change would truly be earth shaking.

Mega-paradigm shifts invalidate long held orthodoxies held by nearly everyone like “You must move about to survive” or “Increase in the quantity of money is the operant factor in inflation” or “The more savings the less money in general circulation”.

Y: Craig

we must distinguish economy and economics, financial economy and economics of financial economy, and financialization or monetization of the economy and economics of those phenomena.

Paradigm shift in economy and finance may proceed “spontaneously” by the technological and institutional change, but paradigm shift of economics does not occur without a group of economists who try to create a new economics. Lars Syll is busy criticizing mainstream economics but forgetting the re-building economics task. Do you want to face paradigm change without change of economics?

Me:  Yoshinori,

Thanks for the reply

“we must distinguish economy and economics, financial economy and economics of financial economy, and financialization or monetization of the economy and economics of those phenomena.”

No, not in my opinion at all. That is an arbitrarily reductive attitude and leads no where but further theorizing about this or that datum. It IS a monetary economy Steve Keen has established that. All of the leading reform movements are about money, finance and its negative effects on the economy. Meanwhile the 5000 year old monetary paradigm of Debt Only goes on and on and on.

We need an integrative perspective on the monetary effects of the present paradigm on the economy….not just another data point discussed….for the umpteenth time.

All the leading reforms are doing their own thing. I’m in touch with several of the leaders of those reform movements and have communicated to them that they all align with the policies of the new paradigm. They’re just not seeing the new insight that a discount/rebate monetary policy at the point of retail sale resolves the two deepest problems of modern economics. I don’t know whether that is because their minds are blinded by orthodoxy, they’re just complacent or they’re just letting their self interests in their own movements prevent them from integrating with the larger paradigmatic movement. It’s probably all of those motives/afflictions/self interests.

If anyone here can say that their ideas, theories, policies or whatever if implemented can immediately do more than double everyone’s potential purchasing power, double the potential business revenue for every enterprise and beneficially integrate price deflation into profit making economic systems….WITH A SINGLE POLICY, and with a couple of additional ones make every mega project necessary for ecological sanity and survival affordable and imminently doable…then I’ll get on their bandwagon. If not….for chrissake get on mine. The friggin’ end is near guys, ya know what I mean? Like a lotta, lotta dead people like yourselves and your families from probable resource wars and/or ecological disaster.

Or we can regurgitate the things we’ve been regurgitating here for years. IT’S THE MONETARY PARADIGM GUYS. Prove me wrong with better and more beneficial policies. I’m ready to hear them.

Y:  Craig reminds me the necessity to re-read Stanilav Andreski’s Social Sciences as Sorcery (1972). According to the book, if I remind it correctly, social sciences develop by fierce fighting between revolutionary idealists and realistic conservatives who question the plausibility of idealists’ proposals. It is a shame that Andreski-type sense of balance has been lost for a long time.

Me:  Ah yes, what we actually need is more dualistic three ways from the middle mental erudition….that makes a fine data point….and leads absolutely no where. NOT! Meanwhile ignore the mathematical, empirical temporal and paradigm changing effects of just one policy insight/breakthrough.

The recognition of the policy power point of retail sale with a 50% discount/rebate monetary policy is the telescope and the discovery of agriculture of economics and finance. You just have to let it settle into your current paradigm conditioned mind long enough to compare the differences it will make to virtually everything in those bodies of knowledge.

And despite the fact that the geo-political flames are leaping higher and the populace is getting more and more angry and impatient with the stresses the current monetary paradigm enforce upon them…..lets discuss other data points another hundred times.

Focus on the pattern change and the pragmatic regulations and structural changes to keep it from being undone by the gamers…..and lets choose life, not death via a thousand excuses and distractions.

R:  Illiberal Reformers tells the story of the progressive scholars and activists who led the Progressive Era crusade to dismantle laissez-faire, remaking American economic life with a newly created instrument of reform, the administrative state. If many of their names are unfamiliar today, the progressives changed everything, permanently altering the course of America’s economy and its public life. (Leonard, Thomas C.. Illiberal Reformers: Race, Eugenics, and American Economics in the Progressive Era (p. ix). Princeton University Press. Kindle Edition.)

A bit closer to home and shows how idealism doesn’t always play out the way the idealists planned. Not that idealism is not needed, mind you, just that it must be wedded to pragmatism too if it seeks to have long lasting impacts in the world.

Me:  Rob, That’s precisely the point…REFORMS never last…but everything adapts to a genuinely new paradigm….not the other way around.

 

Visualizing The Mega-Paradigm Via An Illustration

JD:  Bill Mitchell said in a recent lecture the the paradigm shift is under way.

Me:  Bill Mitchell is using the word paradigm shift to attempt to bolster MMT’s claim that it is such a phenomenon. Unfortunately it is just one of several reforms that are aligned with the actual monetary, financial and economic mega-paradigm change whose simple yet transformative operation is entirely expressed in the 50% Discount/Rebate monetary policy at the point of retail sale.

Visualize a large circle with smaller circles within it entitled MMT, Public Banking, Keen’s Minsky financial instability hypothesis and disequilibrium theory and Michael Hudson’s financial parasitism. Then place blogs like this one in a circle outside of the large circle representing abstract thinking about those reform circles inside the big circle.  Draw several circles entitled Anthropology, History, Sociology, Psychology outside of the large circle. Then put the words Wisdom/Grace/Graciousness in parentheses precisely in the center of the large circle and draw arrows from all smaller circles pointing toward (Wisdom/Grace) which of course is the discipline and the concept behind the new mega-paradigm. Title the illustrationMonetary Gifting: The New Mega Paradigm in Economics, Finance and The Money System and draw an arrow down into the large circle toward the actual concept and expression of the new paradigm itself: Abundantly Direct and Reciprocal Monetary Gifting At Retail Sale. Finally, draw an arrow toward the words (Wisdom/Grace/Graciousness) in the very middle of the large circle to emphasize that all theories and data need to be integrated toward and with the discipline that is Wisdom and its highest concept and experience Grace/Graciousness.

Aligned reforms are good, but “It’s the monetary, financial and economic mega-paradigm, stupid.”