Being both a pill popper and a UFO, now UAP buff, this podcast is like a supercharged chemical synthesis that has raised my dopamine level higher than a nicotine patch. Good on both of you. Yes Dr. Greer is verbose, but its a multi-facted topic after all, and his oligarchic scenario rings utterly true to me. I’ve enjoyed your podcasts for years Dave, and this is one the top ones. Speaking of deep things and syntheses integrating the seeming opposites of human consciousness and the electro-magnetic flux emanating from the cosmic zero point is probably the ultimate human experience as well as what all of the world’s wisdom traditions point at and urge us to attain, i.e. the experience of god as in graciousness/loving experience, intention and action. The experience of Grace/graciousness is the height of wisdom and its integrative fruits are a kind of cosmic code. I invite you to check out my book here: Wisdomics-Gracenomics: The Transformation of Economics and Creating An Everyday, Universally Participated In Infrastructure For The Self Actualization Of Gratitude https://www.amazon.com/Wisdomics-Gracenomics-New-Monetary-Paradigm-Policies-ebook/dp/B0C49B9PX7/ref=monarch_sidesheet_title and my blog Wisdomicsblog.com here: https://wisdomicsblog.com/