Me:  What if chaos is a misnomer? And in fact grace is the actual basic NATURAL reality cloaked by a biased scientism? Such a pan-entheism invites examination of reductive, abstract and reactive scientism and a truly integrative pan-scientific viewpoint.

KZ:  Craig, sent your question to a friend at Sandia Labs. His response. “If grace is just another way to get God into the equation, forget it.”

Me:  @ Ken,

“Craig, sent your question to a friend at Sandia Labs. His response. “If grace is just another way to get God into the equation, forget it.”

A typical non-integrative scientifically religious response. And not correct in regard to anything I have ever posted here. The experience of god is entirely a natural one, and grace as in utter integrative, interactive and dynamic free flowingness is the scientifically accurate and personally beatific reality.

Culturally hide bound scientism and orthodox religiosity are both passe’.