KZ:  The important question, as illustrated by Trump’s actions (immigrant bans, military on the border, government shutdown, corruption, etc.) is how much harm to everyday people and to liberal democratic values and institutions will authoritarian populists inflict this time round before they’re defeated? And if there is active conflict, will it remain political, or involve physical violence, perhaps even armed combat?

Me:  Ken, Precisely. That is why the rule of law must be re-inforced and Trumpism be unmistakably intellectually and politically resigned to the dust bin of history.

Populist “Fourth Turnings” are the chaotic historical signatures of humanity’s chronic failure to accomplish integrative thirdness greater oneness.