Jim and Scott,

Great interview, lots of relevant insights and Jim your observation about the wealth of the contemplative aspect of Life and its current diminishment is spot on.

I think that the last post of mine in Carl’s thread and the Observation about the philosophical concept of Grace being a universal solvent as well as the only concept that actually and effectively integrates both the traditional signature of Science (Duality) and the traditional signature of Religion-Spirituality (Trinity-Unity)….is also relevant to much of what was discussed by both of you regarding the factors influencing Brexit. Which factors everywhere are now threatening to be expressed in their vulgar, only dualistic and obesessively conflicting aspects.

Jim:  Thanks Steve,

And . . . one of the questions that I wonder about (I was a former high school teacher) is: how much of American Literature in particular (and Western Civilization in general) is being supplanted by the new gods.  Do students today know anything about the story of America as told by Nathaniel Hawthorne, Richard Henry Dana, Mark Twain, John Steinbeck, Willa Cather, Francis Parkman, F Scott Fitzgerald, Ernest Hemingway, Edna Ferber, et al?  Do teachers today know any of this? I read those authors in high school in the 60s. That made me rich.

Back to BREXIT:  Hanging on to ones culture and trying to pass it on is a most worthy goal. The burying or minimizing of a culture is not.  That is why the colonial powers destroy cultures.  When I see these silly, ignorant articles beginning with “What were they thinking!?”  I know that the authors are shallowly looking for answers that could only be found if the authors of these articles were capable of understanding that which is deep and meaningful.

Me:   Yep. The depth and thirdness of consciousness in humanity is there, but it must be re-stimulated and re-inforced continually or it withers or devolves into a culture of ignorance, obsessive argumentativeness and the political double bind we now find ourselves in.